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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://misociety.com.au/roslyn-oxley-9-gallery-bill-henson-police-close-exhibition/comment-page-1#comment-11105</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://misociety.com.au/roslyn-oxley-9-gallery-bill-henson-police-close-exhibition/comment-page-1#comment-8468</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are these children mature enough to take responsiblity for the long term ramifications of choosing to be photographed and published for public viewing? I am a mother of children that have been molested, and I have to say this has strongly affected their development. I am not claiming that molestation occured here, but it has potential developmental impact on the children. They are exposing themselves to their peers, families and public viewing. Their pictures are now a commodity (I am guessing they were owned by the &quot;artist&quot;). He has crossed lines here and is setting a very dangerous precedence. Are we protecting our vulnerable populations (children) by allowing display of nude pictures of minors? I feel this is normalizing child pornography and we are slowly falling to a very dangerous area that may support further victimization. There are other families like my own, and I can speak from myself I was shocked and hurt tremendously by this. When does freedom and rights of one person cross the line over the freedom and rights of our children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are these children mature enough to take responsiblity for the long term ramifications of choosing to be photographed and published for public viewing? I am a mother of children that have been molested, and I have to say this has strongly affected their development. I am not claiming that molestation occured here, but it has potential developmental impact on the children. They are exposing themselves to their peers, families and public viewing. Their pictures are now a commodity (I am guessing they were owned by the &#8220;artist&#8221;). He has crossed lines here and is setting a very dangerous precedence. Are we protecting our vulnerable populations (children) by allowing display of nude pictures of minors? I feel this is normalizing child pornography and we are slowly falling to a very dangerous area that may support further victimization. There are other families like my own, and I can speak from myself I was shocked and hurt tremendously by this. When does freedom and rights of one person cross the line over the freedom and rights of our children?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Brown</title>
		<link>http://misociety.com.au/roslyn-oxley-9-gallery-bill-henson-police-close-exhibition/comment-page-1#comment-7859</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that there is a simple solution to this issue. If a child is under the age of consent, he or she should not be photographed naked in a studio and the images displayed in public. 
This will likely disappoint many art people, but laws are all about drawing lines in the sand. Children must be insulated from adults seeking sexual gratification at their expense.  Context is entirely subjective, 99% of people may find Henson&#039;s work non-sexual, but that leaves 1% of people out there looking at those pictures of children and finding them erotic, and that is not good. So why go there? Henson can explore some other theme, there are plenty out there and if he has sufficient creativity he can impress us with something else. Or he can wait until his models are of sufficient age to decide for themselves whether they want to be photographed naked and displayed, rather than comply to the whims their parents and Henson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that there is a simple solution to this issue. If a child is under the age of consent, he or she should not be photographed naked in a studio and the images displayed in public.<br />
This will likely disappoint many art people, but laws are all about drawing lines in the sand. Children must be insulated from adults seeking sexual gratification at their expense.  Context is entirely subjective, 99% of people may find Henson&#8217;s work non-sexual, but that leaves 1% of people out there looking at those pictures of children and finding them erotic, and that is not good. So why go there? Henson can explore some other theme, there are plenty out there and if he has sufficient creativity he can impress us with something else. Or he can wait until his models are of sufficient age to decide for themselves whether they want to be photographed naked and displayed, rather than comply to the whims their parents and Henson.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://misociety.com.au/roslyn-oxley-9-gallery-bill-henson-police-close-exhibition/comment-page-1#comment-7033</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was sexually abused as a child in the 1980s.  Thousands of photographs were taken and two or three super 8 movie reels.  I can tell you it looked nothing like the Henson photographs.

I think we have to accept that paedophiles potentially will find any image of a child potentially erotic.  I think this is inescapable but, I also believe that for most of them the Henson images would really be way down the scale of interest.  If everyone is serious about stopping these people finding something titilating in the images of children, then the only logical answer is the most extreme which is to stop people photographing children altogether, which is absurd.

Reuben, I do not believe closing down the exhibit because someone might find the images titilating--like I say I do not think they would--really has any traction here.  This controversy has brought out the worst in society, now with the gallery owner being threatened.

Also, we as a society are in real trouble if we start equating nudity inescabably with sex.  Why, because this makes every parent or family member who has ever taken a naken photograph of their child a pornographer.

For me to come to this conclusion is difficult because of my history of abuse and suspicion about the motives of photographers.  But like I said before, any image of a child is potentially stimulating to a paedophile, so drawing a line based on potential provocation is the begining of a very slippery slope indeed.  This is something I think neither Hetty Johnston or Miranda Devine, who is appears started this widespread community outrage of two, thought of.

Lastly, I have to take a swing a Hetty Johnston.  I met her in the mid 1990s, partly because of being a abuse survivor.  I was distictly unimpressed, I do not want to wallow in my victimhood for the rest of my life!  I think we must be very careful here because underneath her cause (the prevention of child sexual abuse) that no sane person would argue against lie other more radical agendas and methods (including persecuting Henson). The problem is that because she has become the patron saint of children, people are fearful to criticize her, lest she label them as paedophile sympathisers.

Like I said before.  Coming to these conclusions is difficult, but I am decisive.  I am still getting over my abuse.  I found out 8 years ago a friend of mine abused children before he suicided.  So there are complex issues to deal with at the outset that I ruminate over.  But in the end, picking on Henson&#039;s art is madness and if the charges stick, woebetide anyone who photographs children again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sexually abused as a child in the 1980s.  Thousands of photographs were taken and two or three super 8 movie reels.  I can tell you it looked nothing like the Henson photographs.</p>
<p>I think we have to accept that paedophiles potentially will find any image of a child potentially erotic.  I think this is inescapable but, I also believe that for most of them the Henson images would really be way down the scale of interest.  If everyone is serious about stopping these people finding something titilating in the images of children, then the only logical answer is the most extreme which is to stop people photographing children altogether, which is absurd.</p>
<p>Reuben, I do not believe closing down the exhibit because someone might find the images titilating&#8211;like I say I do not think they would&#8211;really has any traction here.  This controversy has brought out the worst in society, now with the gallery owner being threatened.</p>
<p>Also, we as a society are in real trouble if we start equating nudity inescabably with sex.  Why, because this makes every parent or family member who has ever taken a naken photograph of their child a pornographer.</p>
<p>For me to come to this conclusion is difficult because of my history of abuse and suspicion about the motives of photographers.  But like I said before, any image of a child is potentially stimulating to a paedophile, so drawing a line based on potential provocation is the begining of a very slippery slope indeed.  This is something I think neither Hetty Johnston or Miranda Devine, who is appears started this widespread community outrage of two, thought of.</p>
<p>Lastly, I have to take a swing a Hetty Johnston.  I met her in the mid 1990s, partly because of being a abuse survivor.  I was distictly unimpressed, I do not want to wallow in my victimhood for the rest of my life!  I think we must be very careful here because underneath her cause (the prevention of child sexual abuse) that no sane person would argue against lie other more radical agendas and methods (including persecuting Henson). The problem is that because she has become the patron saint of children, people are fearful to criticize her, lest she label them as paedophile sympathisers.</p>
<p>Like I said before.  Coming to these conclusions is difficult, but I am decisive.  I am still getting over my abuse.  I found out 8 years ago a friend of mine abused children before he suicided.  So there are complex issues to deal with at the outset that I ruminate over.  But in the end, picking on Henson&#8217;s art is madness and if the charges stick, woebetide anyone who photographs children again.</p>
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		<title>By: Reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its right to shut down the exhibit. 
they cannot reopen it now because of all the attention it has aquired.
i do not belive bill henson thought the exhibit pornographic, or sexually pleasing in anyway.
But if they were to open the exhibit now it would be there for all kinds of sick induviduals to view and pehaps interperate in a sexual manner.

&lt;strong&gt;MiSociety...&lt;/strong&gt; Fair comment Reuben and a very good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its right to shut down the exhibit.<br />
they cannot reopen it now because of all the attention it has aquired.<br />
i do not belive bill henson thought the exhibit pornographic, or sexually pleasing in anyway.<br />
But if they were to open the exhibit now it would be there for all kinds of sick induviduals to view and pehaps interperate in a sexual manner.</p>
<p><strong>MiSociety&#8230;</strong> Fair comment Reuben and a very good point.</p>
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		<title>By: J Rothman</title>
		<link>http://misociety.com.au/roslyn-oxley-9-gallery-bill-henson-police-close-exhibition/comment-page-1#comment-6677</link>
		<dc:creator>J Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 04:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;J Rotham says&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;Closing this exhibit represents a clear win for decency….Daily Telegaph(sic)&quot;

More like a clear win for reactionary censorship conservatives with no concept of art.

To call Bill Henson &quot;Obsessed with underage nudity&quot; is to completely miss the point of the work and ignore a life spent pursuing excellence in photographic art, not to mention a total slap in the face for one of Australia’s true masters.

I urge those who have expressed “moral outrage” to look at Hensons boarder body of work to see his evolution to this point and beyond, rather than focus on the media sensation surrounding a small section of images...J Rotham

&lt;strong&gt;MiSociety says: &lt;/strong&gt; It has not been appropriate to release some of the comments we have received from both sides of this hot debate (some language a little strong and others somewhat rude and irrational).  We did not publish any of the images.  What this controversy has highlighted is just how strongly people from both sides of the fence feel about what is and what is not &#039;Art&#039;.  MiSociety is only to happy to publish some good rational discussion regarding this exhibition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>J Rotham says</strong><br />
&#8220;Closing this exhibit represents a clear win for decency….Daily Telegaph(sic)&#8221;</p>
<p>More like a clear win for reactionary censorship conservatives with no concept of art.</p>
<p>To call Bill Henson &#8220;Obsessed with underage nudity&#8221; is to completely miss the point of the work and ignore a life spent pursuing excellence in photographic art, not to mention a total slap in the face for one of Australia’s true masters.</p>
<p>I urge those who have expressed “moral outrage” to look at Hensons boarder body of work to see his evolution to this point and beyond, rather than focus on the media sensation surrounding a small section of images&#8230;J Rotham</p>
<p><strong>MiSociety says: </strong> It has not been appropriate to release some of the comments we have received from both sides of this hot debate (some language a little strong and others somewhat rude and irrational).  We did not publish any of the images.  What this controversy has highlighted is just how strongly people from both sides of the fence feel about what is and what is not &#8216;Art&#8217;.  MiSociety is only to happy to publish some good rational discussion regarding this exhibition.</p>
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